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Home Pyramid schemes..are nothing but a fraud.
About 18 months back I came across a few auctions that were selling
information about The email below was the correspondence that took place
that time. After a few months, I again tried emailing Recently I was looking for a tripod on ebay and still found those schemes operating with impunity. Im guessing the people who sell these get shut down every
now and then when people complain Here are more articles and websites- http://www.matrixwatch.org/ , MSNBC story , Tech Tv ************************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- *******************************************************************
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Multiple posts. I frequent few groups, but it appears to
be in every damn one of them. All the posts I have (so far)
see come from the same source:
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and are posted at the same location:
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Among the sites which have received this crap are:
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.comp.atari8bit
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.soundtracks
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.78rpm-era
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.1940s.mp3
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.radio.misc
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sound.radio.oldtime
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One copy of the many, many, many I could send you as
evidence of the spam is included.
The contents for each of the spams are byte for byte
identical (the only difference is in the headers:
Newsgroup to which it is posted;
Time;
Message-ID;
etc.)
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postmaster@rogers.com,abuse@rogers.com
SPAM posted at (in all cases): X-Complaints-To: abuse@rogers.com
SPAM for the spammer's three illegal pyramid schemes in which
he is entered. These are not pyramid schemes which sell listings
of names and you get money back. Instead they couch their versions
in terms of purchasing "reports" and when the pyramid is big
enough you don't get money, but a product.
PYRAMID SCHEME 1: http://www.ezdeal4u.com/products.htm
on cavecreek.
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spamtool@level3.net,abuse@level3.net,
postmaster@cavecreek.net
PYRAMID SCHEME 2: http://www.matrixtronix.com/ProductList.html
on VERIO/HOMESTEAD.COM.
abuse@verio.net,abuse@homesteadsupport.com
PYRAMID SCHEME 3: http://www.e-maytrix.com/Emaytrix/products.html
on NAC.NET.
abuse@nac.net
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SPAMVERTIZED URLs:
1: http://www.ezdeal4u.com/products.htm
Pyramid Scheme.
This sells no printers, Pocket PCs or anything else listed. It sells
e-books for rather large amounts. The person who is at the "top of the
list" for each of the products receives the producut (associated with
the e-book) after twenty others purchase the e-book associated with it
and then the next moves up. By selling an "e-book" (which may be more
more than a 1K description of the product) the site claims that it makes
the Pyramid Scheme legal. I see that in some cases folks purchase
multiple copies of the ebook so that their names appear multiple times
on the pyramid scheme list. There is no guarantee of anything. Legally,
as their FAQ page indicates, all you are entitled to is the e-book you
purchase. The product from the pyramid scheme is just a "Free Gift" and
NOT what you purchase (if you are purchasing the e-book for another
reason ... well, then it would be an illegal pyramid scheme).
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2: http://www.matrixtronix.com/ProductList.html
Pyramid Scheme.
Guess what! You don't purchase anything at this site except a membership
in the pyramid and may, someday, receive a free gift! If you are spending
any money for ANYTHING except for joining so nice a club, it would be an
illegal pyramid scheme.
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3: http://www.e-maytrix.com/Emaytrix/products.html
Pyramid Scheme
"The product we are selling are reports. By purchasing a report, you
automatically get entered into a desired maytrix to receive one of our
FREE products. The FREE products are just that, and E-Maytrix cannot be
held liable once you receive your ebook."
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From sales@es.com Fri Jan 24 20:04:30 2003
From: "Electronics Sale" <sales@es.com>
Subject: Electronics Blowout!
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re:http://www.aoyt73.dsl.pipex.com/consumer_electronics.htm Is this for real ? Anyone tried it. ? Sally This is, what comes as result. So save your money and read. :-) Hi & Thanks for buying this information. Here is the information you bid for : Enjoy your new experience of buying cheaper ! So what is it all about ?? It works on the principle of a straight line matrix. In simple terms what this means is when you pay your fee you join the bottom of the queue, i.e. the 'Matrix.' The person on the top of the Full Matrix is "Currently Cycling" which means as soon as the matrix is full, he will receive his item. As soon as his matrix is full, he will be moved off the list and the next person under him will begin his cycle. Based on a 20 person matrix, in order for 5 people to receive an item, there needs to be 100 people in the matrix. What they do to prevent the numbers from getting way out of hand is to use a process they invented - called auto-cycling. Whenever they receive money from advertisers (people who advertise with us), they take 100% of that money and put in back into the matrices to automatically cycle the top person off the list. When this is done, the next person moves up into the spot where person 1 was without disrupting the matrix flow. In a 20 person matrix, this essentially takes off 20 people that are needed for everyone to receive their item. YOU ARE GUARANTEED TO RECEIVE YOUR ITEM- or a cheque to the value of the stated mrp of that item if you prefer! I know this sounds far too good to be true... but I am expecting a check for $220 as a result of a $25.00 (£16) payment I made 6 weeks ago (I went on the matrix for the PS2 and elected to take the money rather than the product)! If only banks gave as good a return on your money as that!!!! In the auction I advertised 11 differednt sites. However, since this the list has grown to over 20. You will find the list and a brief description of each site in the enclosed attachment. Each site has different payment systems. The most common are Stormpay, money orders, and paypal. It is worth noting that some of the sites are restrictive on where they will ship the items to. Some of the sites will only offer the cash alternative for buyers outside the US and Canada, but, since this could be over $1,000 for a $50 purchase it isn't all bad! Now some sites also offer pure cash matrices as well, so it could be money for practically nothing! It is also important to shop around for the best deals on an item. One example of this is the Nintendo Gamecube, the cheapest I've seen is £10, but others may charge up to £20. The associated value for each item, which you can choose as I did instead of getting the item, is also listed on the web site. THE CATCH There isn't one!!!! Honestly!!! The only differences between getting an item this way and buying it in a shop are: 1) You pay less for the item than you probably would pay in delivery fees alone over here! 2) You have to wait until you have cycled before you get your item or cheque. The length of time depends on how many people buy the item you have chosen and the length of the item's matrix. 3-6 months is a fair estimate. you can log on at any time and see how you are progressing on your matrix to get an idea of how much longer it will be. 3) The items are in US voltage, which means you will have to buy a special adaptor to use it over here. these retail at around £35.00 and can be obtained in most electrical stores- no big deal considering how little you are paying for the item! FAQ's 1. How does this program work and what is auto-cycling? The idea is based off a standard straight-line matrix. The person on the top of the Full Matrix is "Currently Cycling" which means as soon as the matrix is full, he will receive his item. As soon as his matrix is full, he will be moved off the list and the next person under him will begin his cycle. Based on a 20 person matrix, in order for 5 people to receive an item, there needs to be 100 people in the matrix. 2. Is the matrix legal? Yes! An example of an illegal matrix would be one where there is no product immediately sold. Since you are buying a product (e-books) there is nothing illegal about it. The matrix entry is classed as a free gift to you when you purchase the e-books. 3. How do you make money if you are giving away "free" electronics? These sites make money off the sale of e-books. When they have accumulated enough funds for a matrix, based off the size of the matrix, they send out a free item. The following example highlights this: On a 20 person matrix at $25, when it is full there is $500 accumulated dollars. They ship out a free item (or cash equivalent) valued at $220 making the total in-house dollars = $280. Once they have paid merchant fees, employees, and miscellaneous fees such as advertising, they still profit an estimate of $50-$75. 4. How can I be sure I will get my free item? They make our money off the sale of e-books. Your matrix entry is a free gift. While there are some people that buy e-books just for the return on investment (ROI), I must remind you of the legalities behind these programs. When you purchase e-books, they guarantee you a position in the matrix and also guarantee that upon cycling said matrix, you will receive your free electronics. 5. How long does it take to receive a free item? The time to receive a free item depends on how quickly people buy the e-books and are placed in the matrix. They cannot give you a guaranteed time of arrival. If you have any further questions I will be happy to help!! I will leave positive feedback for you now, and would appreciate it if you could do the same for me!! Thanks Firestarter! Electronic Info & URLs www.ezexpo.com This is a well established site handling mainly electronics, though recently they have added a $500 cash matrix that has enjoyed success. They do ship internationally and offer a cash alternative for the products when it is your turn to cycle. Currently the only method of payment is via money order, but this could change. As it is popular and well established the lists are a lot longer, and the average wait is 3-6 months. www.myelectronics4u.com This site has had some problems, but has rebounded well. Their products are mainly electrical, but do offer a package for a diamond bracelet. As of 10th March they are awaiting a new merchant account, though you can still purchase their e-books using Stormpay. www.chargertek.com This site is successful, but seems to be catered more towards the specialised area of computer electronic items. One very good thing about this site is that they run 4 person matrices on selected items, though this may cost more to cover the cost of the electrical item! They accept both Stormpay and Paypal, so there is more variation and this may also draw in more people willing to use Paypal rather than Stormpay. For those who order their packages outside the US & Canada there is only a cash option as there is uncertainty as to the compatability of US equipment to European voltage levels. www.expo4less.com This site is advertised as a ‘promotions company', so they are very keen to promote themselves and others within their site. Daily updates also help the consumer to try to find a bargain as they offer a wide range of products at affordable prices, although they only offer the cash equivalent to those outside the US and Canada. At the moment they accept credit cards and money orders and there is no mention of them altering this. www.basicallyfree.com This site is one that could be considered up and coming, but has recently suffered some e-mail problems that should not discourage potential dealings with them. As this site is relatively new, the lists are very short at the moment and are good for those who don't want to wait too long, so get in there quick! They mainly handle electrical equipment, but also stock accessories such as console games and DVD films for extremely reasonable prices ($5 each for XXX / Minority Report / The Lord of The Rings / Spiderman on DVD). It is also worth noting that this site may not provide free shipping to countries outside the continental US, but this depends on the size of the item ordered. At present this site uses Stormpay, but this may change as the site becomes more established. www.matrix321.com This site is a relative newcomer in this area, which should encourage others to sign up as the lists will be short. They mainly deal with electrical items, but have recently introduced a cash matrix ($35 to $100), which has so far proven to be a success, the lines for this also are still quite short, when considering some of the other sites available. This company do offer international shipping, though there is no mention of cash equivalents. Currently they accept PayPal or Credit Cards, so there is a world of opportunities for various payment possibilities. www.matrixstacks.com This site can only be seen as a success. The proprietor is open and friendly and offers excellent value for money. The site has over 25 different products that are all high quality items, and offers a wide choice in manufacturers, from Sony to Bose and Compaq to Hewlett Packard. The site is updated regularly and is expecting a new merchant account to be implemented on the 15th March. They also offer cash equivalents on all products that are at least equal to their retail value. They are willing to ship internationally, but recommend that you take the cash equivalent instead due to the costs involved. www.giveawayclub.com This site is to be seen as one of the more established, and has regular updates to keep people cycling. They mainly deal in electronics, but again these also offer the option of the cash matrix, which can be very tempting! The lists for this site are very short, but the packages they sell are expensive compared to some of the other sites, but they make up for this with short matrix lengths. They will ship internationally, but do not offer a cash alternative at the moment. Currently, this site uses Stormpay, but this is due to change. www.ezdeal4u.com This site can be seen as being for the novice, as it is simplistically set out and offers all necessary info without needing to delve into subsections Approx 25 different items are offered, all to a high standard and reasonable prices. Cash equivalents are available outside the US as shipping is not possible. The new merchant account for this site is Ginix.com which should enable this site to flourish. www.areyouinline.com This site is particularly helpful and eager to help and please its customers, and has also introduced linespeed to assist in the progress of the queues. This concept is that when you buy the e-book you can pay a bit more and occupy up to 3 spaces on the matrix for one price, thus shortening the wait for your items. All the products here are electrical and the site will ship internationally, but do not offer a cash equivalent as yet. At present they accept paypal, and there is no sign of this changing www.what-is-the-ematrix.com This site can be seen as new & advancing in this area of internet businesses. Though dealing mainly in electronics the do have a number of cash matrices in different denominations up to $1000. The products this site offers are expensive, but high quality, and may be worth the outlay for some individuals. Currently this site will not send anything, cash or electronics, outside the US, so this one is for those across the water! www.fast-cycle.com This site is practically brand new! This means that there are currently no queues! The update on the site says they expect to be up and running by mid March, so that should be in a few days all being well! The equipment they offer is of a very high quality, but is very expensive also. This is compensated by the very short matrix lengths (they all seem to be 5 people only). A cash alternative is available on some of the items, but, it is worth checking for this detail before you click on submit! Shipping is available worldwide for these items, but if you are unsure about possible shipping charges be sure to ask them first! This site will be accepting Stormpay for the foreseeable future, but may change. www.apitone.com This site has been recently re-established, though I don't know why it was stopped in the first place! They offer a wide and varied range of electronics. International shipping is available as well as a cash equivalent. At the moment the only accept credit cards through their own checkout system, but this may grow in future. www.matrix4less.com One of the first things about this site is that it is very open and friendly and offers a variety of options rather than a standard price for its products. This can be seen in it's inclusion of a forum for people to get advice or just chat. An example of this is that if you purchase a PS2, you then have the option of which package to choose, the standard package, or the one slightly more expensive, but with a few extras, such as a game with it. At present hey do not ship outside the US, but do offer a cash alternative for international customers. They are expecting a new merchant account quite soon, but you can still buy items using paypal or stormpay. www.imallz.com This site has enjoyed success with its friendly and informative site. They stock a wide range of electrical products as well as the now, almost obligatory, cash matrix. They are willing to ship outside the US, but may charge some fees for this. At the moment they accept paypal, but there is a strong chance that this will change. www.giftcardexpo.com This site is very eager to keep the lists cycling and does what it can to increase turnover in this area. There is a wide and varied range of products both inside and outside the usual electronic selection. They do have the cash matrix, but with a variation as you can accept the cash or a gift depending on which you signed up for originally. One example of this is that for $1000USD you can get the cash or a grandfather clock! Another is a diamond bracelet. These also offer products that would bnever normally be considered for a matrix program, such as a go-kart or a foosball table (table football for the uneducated Brits!) You do have the option of the product or the cash, again it depends on whether you are willing to pay towards shipping costs. At the moment this site is between merchant accounts, but you can still buy products with them through Stormpay. It should be noted that they seem to be having some problems updating their lists at the moment and seem to be stuck on February, in this they are short, but nearly a month has passed since then! www.mr-kits.com At the moment this site is in the process of being taken over by apitone.com (see above), and will continue to run as a matrix site. This site has potential so keep an eye on it and mark it down as one for the future! www.advertmall.com Like so many others this site is also changing its merchant account at the moment, but don't let that put you off. The site itself is very helpful and eager to keep members updated on any new details. The products on offer include a wide range of electronics and games at very reasonable prices, as well as the option of a cash auction. Outside of the US, only a cash option is available, with no shipping costs for US residents. One of the interesting features of this site is that for each product they offer two different tracks. This means that you can chose if you want to pay more and go on the shorter cycle, or pay the standard price and stay on the long cycle. Currently this sites main account is with Stormpay, but this may change in future, there is just no way of knowing! www.ematrixusa.com The first thing you notice about this site is that it is very personal and friendly and does not seem as intimidating as some of the more technical sites. Currently they deal in electronics and cash in different denominations with more items being added each month. Like advertmall.com (above) these also adopt a number of options for the buyer, but this time there are 3 options for track length: 5, 15 or 25. They do offer a cash alternative on their products for international customers as they do not deliver outside this area. At the moment this site uses Ginix for its merchant account, which we are assured is reliable, though personally I've had no experience with them. www.matrixline.com This is one of the newly opened sites that has the advantage of short lines with the disadvantage of a lack of publicity. Opened on 1st March 2003 they carry a small range of electronic and cash matrices but hope to add more as they grow. Like other sites they are introducing there own schemes to improve their service and this one is based on the idea that once you pay for a single cycle and have completed that cycle, you are automatically entered back onto the cycle for free for another complete run, which therefore doubles your cash equivalent. At the moment you can use paypal on this site, and there is no mention of this changing. www.matrixrevolution.net This site can be seen as being run by experienced electronics dealers with a very wide range of items, including, in car audio and visual equipment as well as home theatre systems and cameras. One fact that differs between this site and other is that instead of having multiple lists, every transaction enters onto a single list to speed up the cycle of the winners. International shipping is available here as well as the cash equivalent, and any payments can be made via stormpay at the present. www.ontrackmatrix.com This is a site dedicated to speed and ensuring that the buyers get their products in a reasonable amount of time. Despite having been open for less that 6 weeks, they offer an extensive range if items above the electronic range, including exercise equipment, blood pressure monitors and Rolex watches. As they are so new the lists are very short, but that may soon change. They are willing to offer both a cash equivalent and international shipping so there is no limit of choice! This is another site that accepts the popular Stormpay as its merchant account, but this could change. www.ezmatrixes.com The comparisons you can make between this relatively new site and ezexpo.com (above) are stunning. Although a new site, they seem to have modelled themselves on one of the most established sites of this nature. They offer a good range of electronics, though don't seem to do cash matrices as yet. This site will ship internationally and do offer a cash equivalent to anyone when they cycle. This site also offers the chance to share your thoughts & comments in a forum, which makes interesting reading! Again Stormpay is a major feature. www.gotmatrix.com This is another of the new sites in this area, but has taken lessons from the examples of others by also including a forum. A wide range of electrical good is available with both in car and consumer goods. The cycles for this site are short but a password is needed to access the lists for viewing. Outside of the US only a cash option is available, however, there are more payment options with paypal, credit cards and money orders available for use. www.extremematrix.net Opened January 2003 this site presents many innovative ideas to facilitate improvement in these sites, including a forum and a variety of payment options. They have brought in a wide range of interesting items with 2 payment options available such as ‘til payday', which gives the purchaser up to 2 weeks to pay for an item, or the standard buy now option. This concept could really raise the number of purchases in these sites as your name goes onto the lists before payment is complete, instead of waiting those few extra days and losing maybe half a dozen places on the lists which are currently quite short. They also have the concept of ‘Warp Speed'. This entails a $30 ‘donation' to the company which is then put aside and you will get your free item when there is enough money put aside to pay for it, which avoids the longer waits for a couple of people to sign up for you to complete your cycle. They accept credit cards, wire transfers and money orders, with the latter two generating a discount from the final cost. Another incentive for this site is the short lists, which I expect to rapidly increase There is a generous cash alternative available on all their products, though in this instance you have the choice as they do ship internationally. www.e-maytrixonline.extremematrix.net This site was originally set up in Feb 2003, but was subsequently taken over by extremematrix.com (above) in March 2003. This site has a healthy and wide range of products that could appeal to anyone, with the addition of a radio controlled Nitro Car. www.viginc.com This is another of the steadily growing new sites in this area and has come prepared with a good range of items available at reasonable prices, plus the obligatory cash matrices in different denominations. The lists for this site are still reasonably short, but, it does seem to have set itself up with a large amount of sponsorship from other sites, so this one will be growing fast. Another growing necessity is for a site to have its own checkout facilities, which guides you through the process without the stress of continuously sending e-mails to see why your order hasn't been logged. I can't go on forever or I'll never send this out to you! I will attempt to continue with this and already have more sites to check out for part 2. If you see auctions of mine and are not sure whether you already have this info please feel free to contact me and I will sort something out for you! Good Luck & Happy Buying Firestarter Ps please leave feedback for me and I'll be sure to do the same for you! Pps here is the address where you will find links to tons of free stuff and free e-books! www.directlube.com/ebaytheeasyway.html top
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